Diario de moopie321, 03 may. 19

New to me - thank you for posting it. 

I think that fat and obese people benefit from cardio according to studies as long as they do not increase food intake with the cardio. Healthy already normal weight people benefit more from weighlifting. I think that is what the studies indicate  

Liv, I think this feeds back to the base of the triangle. Whichever creates the greatest calorie deficit over time will be better. 

Yeah, I don't think calorie deficit works quite like money deficit. The body will deal with what we consume and how we expend energy in various ways. It is like shopping for goods but the prices are never actually stable so you cannot really have and exact handle on what you are spending and how much you are retaining.  

By calorie deficit I just mean your body has to burn more than you consume.  

Calorie burn meaning something like the sum of the number of calories you burn doing nothing + The number of calories of you doing something + the number of calories you burn converting the food into useable energy? Am I missing something? 

No that is the basics. Except our bodies are not quite like bunsen burners. We cannot load up with 5 units of fuel and produce 5 units of energy. Our bodies are more individual than that. So saying that cardio is less important than weighlifting may depend on a number of factors, one of which is how much fat we are carrying for instance.  

Right your body fat percentage and lean muscle percentage would be factors in how much you burn which is unique to each person. If a person is super heavy just walking is like walking with extra weights attached to a lean person they have to expend extra energy to move their body.  

I think we can agree that the number of calories in food is the same for everyone but the difference is what the consumer’s body does with the food. While it may not be a direct correlation, you still need to expend more energy than you take in to lose fat. Am I still missing something?  

No you are not missing anything. The variations such as they are, are pretty tiny. But we know that if I eat flaxseed, the number of calories I absorb is dependent on how ground up the flax seed is. Or that what happens to the 2000 worth of calories you and I consume may have different effect or be used differently dependent on how our bodies are like. But the laws of thermodynamics are still true. Just a lot of factors to factor in 

Yeah it is a lot of factors, I think there are online calculators that will give you acceptable estimates based on the biggest factors that affect your energy burn rate.  

Also I can see why you said cardio is more important than weight lifting for overweight people. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cardio-vs-weights-for-weight-loss#section2 

Since most of us don’t have access to the equipment to determine how much we are burning, we can only control what we intake by using tools like scales to measure our foods to get accurate calorie counts.  

Lifting is even more beneficial for overweight people since they can actually build muscle and lose fat simultaneously much easier than a normal weight individual. More lean mass equals a higher metabolism. It's a 1-2 punch of awesome. 

when a bigger person is moving it’s kinda like weight lifting bc they have to carry all that body weight, and when they do cardio they have to carry the weight and move quickly? 🤷‍♀️  

I mean, it burns plenty of calories but it's still endurance training and won't do meaningful muscle damage.